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First, thanks to the great discussion.  Readers will learn as much from the discussion as they will from me.  To repeat the presentation:
The patient is an 81 year old man found with altered mental status.  He has known diabetes mellitus, hypertension, COPD and CHF, but has not taken any medications for the past year.

Electrolyte panel

Na
142
Cl
96
BUN
99

K
5.5
HCO3
21
creat
2.3

Blood [...]

We have a brilliant debate ongoing in the comment section of yesterday's problem.  I will refrain from commenting for 24 hours.  Please join the debate – then I will weigh in some time tomorrow.
I cannot answer every question about this patient, but I can answer some key questions.

The patient is an 81 year old man found with altered mental status.  He has known diabetes mellitus, hypertension, COPD and CHF, but has not taken any medications for the past year.

Electrolyte panel

Na
142
Cl
96
BUN
99

K
5.5
HCO3
21
creat
2.3

Blood Sugar
568

Alb 3.1
ABG on 4 liters nasal oxygen

ABG

pH
7.38

pCO2
29

pO2
133

HCO3
18

So please address these questions: 1. What is the acid-base disorder? 2.Provide a differential for the [...]

The patient is a 69 year old woman admitted with abdominal pain and nausea.  She may have lost weight.  She has no known past medical history and is taking no medications.  Her labs give many clues:

Electrolyte panel

Na
142
Cl
113
BUN
106

K
6.5
HCO3
11
creat
9.1

Blood Sugar
79

Alb 3.2; Calcium 5.1
ABG on room air

ABG

pH
7.23

pCO2
23

pO2
80

HCO3
10

So please address these questions:
1. What is the acid-base disorder?
Here is my [...]

The patient is a 69 year old woman admitted with abdominal pain and nausea.  She may have lost weight.  She has no known past medical history and is taking no medications.  Her labs give many clues:

Electrolyte panel

Na
142
Cl
113
BUN
106

K
6.5
HCO3
11
creat
9.1

Blood Sugar
79

Alb 3.2; Calcium 5.1
ABG on room air

ABG

pH
7.23

pCO2
23

pO2
80

HCO3
10

So please address these questions: 1. What is the acid-base disorder? 2. [...]

This article makes one think differently.  I like articles that challenge common wisdom.
Is Metformin Associated With Lactic Acidosis?

It appears that metformin itself may not increase the risk for lactic acidosis. And although metformin use has increased over the years, the incidence of lactic acidosis has not increased. Additionally, there is no evidence to suggest that [...]

Not too bad, 9 admissions, but several were just overnight admissions.  I always am hyperfunctioning on Friday post call days.  We have to work hard, because many things are not available on the weekends.
Yesterday I posed a question about treating metabolic acidosis with bicarbonate.  I recommend this article – Bicarbonate Therapy in Severe Metabolic Acidosis
Here [...]

I ordered a renal consult for our patient, thinking that his kidney disease might be the cause of the anemia.  The renal team decided to try iron once again, and then consider a trial of erythropoeitin as an outpatient if he does not respond to iron.
I thought he might have significant diabetic renal disease, so [...]

Yesterday I provided this patient:
Interesting patient presented recently.  He is HIV+ and has a 10 day history of large volume watery diarrhea. On the 3rd day his BMP showed.  On admission his HCO3 was 19.

Electrolyte panel

Na
149
Cl
128
BUN
13

K
3.0
HCO3
12
creat
0.8

This is actually relatively easy.
1. What is the likely acid-base problem?
Given the large volume watery diarrhea, he likely has stool [...]

Interesting patient presented recently.  He is HIV+ and has a 10 day history of large volume watery diarrhea. On the 3rd day his BMP showed.  On admission his HCO3 was 19.

Electrolyte panel

Na
149
Cl
128
BUN
13

K
3.0
HCO3
12
creat
0.8

This is actually relatively easy.
1. What is the likely acid-base problem?
2. How can we prove our assumption?
3. How would you treat this patient?

55 yo man with SC disease and membranous nephritis.  He is taking an ACE inhibitor to decrease his urine protein and delay progression of renal disease.  We saw these labs

Electrolyte panel

Na
133
Cl
107
BUN
27

K
5.1
HCO3
19
creat
1.2

This was the last day of my tour at the VA.  So instead of making this a puzzle, I will tell you what we did.  [...]

 

Electrolyte panel

Na
132
Cl
85
BUN
73

K
2.8
HCO3
37
creat
2.8

Blood Sugar
205

Seeing this BMP yesterday showed the difference between knowledge and wisdom.  For experienced clinicians, the patterns in this BMP are obvious.  For many students and interns, we just have 7 numbers.
Here is how I think through this problem:

The patient has an elevated creatinine and BUN.
The BUN is much more elevated than the creatinine [...]

Day 11 involved discussing 5 new patients, and continuing plans on the remaining patients.
One patient brought out some important teaching points.  The patient is in his 70s and came in for weakness.  His routine labs made the diagnosis:
 

Electrolyte panel

Na
132
Cl
85
BUN
73

K
2.8
HCO3
37
creat
2.8

Blood Sugar
205

 
Two months ago his values were:
 

Electrolyte panel

Na
137
Cl
103
BUN
18

K
3.4
HCO3
27
creat
1

Blood Sugar
144

 
While I think this is an easy one, the [...]

Relatively easy day – just the resident, 1 intern and me rounding on 6 patients.  We had an interesting acid-base puzzle.  The patient is in his 50s and has known hep C positivity (possible cirrhosis) and recent nephrotic syndrome.  How do you dissect information just from his electrolyte panel.  One other hint – his albumin [...]

Day 6 we admit again.  When I left yesterday we had 4 patients already.
Rounds yesterday focused mostly on teaching.  As an attending, I make a 2 hour commitment to my teams.  They get me for 2 hours and I get them for 2 hours, regardless. 
Yesterday we reviewed my favorite diabetes mneumonic – the FLECKS.  [...]

My team had a relatively easy Sunday call day.  On post call days, we spend 3 hours presenting new patients, discussing old patients and seeing all the patients.  I told me team on Sunday that I would use the entire time regardless.  With only 3 new patients, we had leisurely, and I hope educational, discussions [...]

ABG dilemma discussed

15, Nov 2009

This is a classic ABG sequence:

ABG
Admission (on 2 L O2)
Day 2 (Bipap 100%)

ABGs on successive days

pH

7.28

7.52

pCO2
89
52

pO2
60
373

HCO3
42
42

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Your tasks are to understand and explain the course of events for this woman having a COPD exacerbation.
 
1. What is the initial acid-base disorder?
The patient has a chronic respiratory acidosis with metabolic compensation.  I cannot remember the calculations, so I [...]

An ABG dilemma

13, Nov 2009

This is a classic ABG sequence:

ABG
Admission (on 2 L O2)
Day 2 (Bipap 100%)

ABGs on successive days

pH

7.28

7.52

pCO2
89
52

pO2
60
373

HCO3
42
42

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Your tasks are to understand and explain the course of events for this woman having a COPD exacerbation.
 
1. What is the initial acid-base disorder?
2. What is the second day disorder?
3. What would you do now?

My acid base project

1, Nov 2009

Readers know that I love teaching acid-base and electrolytes.  For several years my students and residents have encouraged me to collect my teaching philosophy on paper.
I have finally started the project.  I am writing an online book, which may become a paper book in the future.  I need critics and beta testers.  I need you.  [...]

The patient is a 38 year old man admitted with a bleeding ulcer. It is 3 days later, he is otherwise stable and has these labs. He has known polycystic kidney disease with an estimated GFR of 30. He weights approximately 70 kg.

Electrolyte panel

Na
141
Cl
116
BUN
49

K
4.8
HCO3
16
creat
2.7

Blood Sugar
90

ABG

pH
7.25

pCO2
33

pO2
83

HCO3
15

So please address these questions:
1. What is the [...]

An acidosis question

28, Oct 2009

The patient is a 38 year old man admitted with a bleeding ulcer. It is 3 days later, he is otherwise stable and has these labs. He has known polycystic kidney disease with an estimated GFR of 30. He weights approximately 70 kg.

Electrolyte panel

Na
141
Cl
116
BUN
49

K
4.8
HCO3
16
creat
2.7

Blood Sugar
90

ABG

pH
7.25

pCO2
33

pO2
83

HCO3
15

So please address these questions:
1. What is the [...]

Happy Hospitalist has a great post today. Of course, he linked to 2 of my previous posts so perhaps I am influenced to like his post. Why Do Doctors Order Blood Gases?
Happy focuses primarily on the possibility of an acid-base abnormality in his entry. I would add that sometimes an ABG is [...]

I have very smart readers. Two predicted the ABG.

ABG

pH
7.45

pCO2
24

pO2
100

As Happy Hospitalist and ProNephros both deducted, the patient likely had a chronic respiratory alkalosis.  We cannot be certain; I suspect acute on chronic respiratory alkalosis.
The point that I have made several times, is that you really do need an ABG to understand acid-base problems.
One commenter [...]

To restate:
The patient is a 50 year old woman who admits to “serious drinking” of at least 1 pint of vodka a day for at least 2 weeks.  She is admitted looking ill and slightly confused.  Her initial labs:

Electrolyte panel

Na
137
Cl
89
BUN
8

K
4.3
HCO3
7
creat
0.7

Blood Sugar
55

Other labs included an albumin of 4.9, ALT 109, AST 169, alk phos 134, Total [...]

The patient is a 50 year old woman who admits to “serious drinking” of at least 1 pint of vodka a day for at least 2 weeks.  She is admitted looking ill and slightly confused.  Her initial labs:

Electrolyte panel

Na
137
Cl
89
BUN
8

K
4.3
HCO3
7
creat
0.7

Blood Sugar
55

Other labs included an albumin of 4.9, ALT 109, AST 169, alk phos 134, Total bili [...]

So I thought about the problem overnight.  The key here was the persistent respiratory acidosis.  The patient clearly did not have COPD.  I did mention his weight, and then I decided he must have obesity hypoventilation syndrome. 
So we go into the room the next morning and he is now alert and his wife is in [...]

 
To restate:
41 year old man with left hemipareis s/p right brain aneurysm surgery in the past.  Now presents with increasing obtundation, increased urination and abdominal discomfort. Labs follow:
On 2l nasal oxygen:
 

ABG

pH
7.41

pCO2
47

pO2
95

 

Electrolyte panel

Na
 128
Cl
 83
BUN
 8

K
4.2
HCO3
24
creat
 0.7

Blood Sugar
 742

 
The patient is a large man (110 kg) who now admits to 4 weeks of increased urination and recent constant thirst with a [...]

 
41 year old man with left hemipareis s/p right brain aneurysm surgery in the past.  Now presents with increasing obtundation, increased urination and abdominal discomfort. Labs follow:
On 2l nasal oxygen:
 

ABG

pH
7.41

pCO2
47

pO2
95

 

Electrolyte panel

Na
 128
Cl
 83
BUN
 8

K
4.2
HCO3
24
creat
 0.7

Blood Sugar
 742

 Now for the hard part, figure out the acid-base problem.  Next I will give you his labs 2 days later, then my interpretation.

 
To remind readers
 
 

ABG

pH
7.48

pCO2
50

pO2
96

 
On a respirator
 
Making rounds yesterday in the ICU, we found this electrolyte panel

Electrolyte panel

Na
 138
Cl
 97
BUN
 32

K
3.6
HCO3
36
creat
 1.1

Blood Sugar
 165

 
As usual, figure out the acid-base disorder and explain the sequence of events.  The patient has been intubated for 3 days.  He has COPD and CHF.
 
His ABG from 3 days previously –
 

ABG

pH
7.36

pCO2
57

pO2
115

 
There are two likely possibilities here, and [...]

 
 

ABG

pH
7.48

pCO2
50

pO2
96

 
On a respirator
 
Making rounds yesterday in the ICU, we found this electrolyte panel

Electrolyte panel

Na
 138
Cl
 97
BUN
 32

K
3.6
HCO3
36
creat
 1.1

Blood Sugar
 165

 
As usual, figure out the acid-base disorder and explain the sequence of events.  The patient has been intubated for 3 days.  He has COPD and CHF.
 

 
Tolvaptan is an ADH antagonist.  We will have few indications, but in the rare true SIADH patient, this drug will have some value.  I do not know the cost.
I see many hyponatremia patients, and few of them have persistent SIADH.  I am glad to have this option for those rare patients. 
The NEJM had a couple [...]