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		<title>By: A &#8220;Townhall&#8221; Event: Cincinnati, Ohio - Smart Girl Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>A &#8220;Townhall&#8221; Event: Cincinnati, Ohio - Smart Girl Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rocky</title>
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		<dc:creator>rocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 04:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a nice post</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Kirsch, M.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Kirsch, M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 03:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the Massachusettes &#039;Miracle&quot; plan was inaugurated in 2006, it was heralded as a health care crisis panacea.  The shine on the promise has tarnished.  First, there weren&#039;t enough primary care physicians and now there isn&#039;t enough money. If we can&#039;t get universal coverage (Massachusettes was not exactly universal) right in a small state, shouldn&#039;t we learn from our mistakes and misjudgments before jumping off a higher cliff?  Health care reform is a Hydra that has tamed American presidents since World War II.  I agree that we desperately need it, but I don&#039;t want our treatment to be worse than the disease.  wwwMDWhistleblower.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the Massachusettes &#8216;Miracle&#8221; plan was inaugurated in 2006, it was heralded as a health care crisis panacea.  The shine on the promise has tarnished.  First, there weren&#8217;t enough primary care physicians and now there isn&#8217;t enough money. If we can&#8217;t get universal coverage (Massachusettes was not exactly universal) right in a small state, shouldn&#8217;t we learn from our mistakes and misjudgments before jumping off a higher cliff?  Health care reform is a Hydra that has tamed American presidents since World War II.  I agree that we desperately need it, but I don&#8217;t want our treatment to be worse than the disease.  wwwMDWhistleblower.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Friends:  

I agree with everyone here but Igor here.

I have posted on this very subject including a summary of things that have to be done with reference universal insurance and primary care.

I did not want to repeat myself here.  

http://healthcare.change.org/blog/view/why_does_controlling_health_care_spending_cost_money

I would appreciate any comments.

Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Friends:  </p>
<p>I agree with everyone here but Igor here.</p>
<p>I have posted on this very subject including a summary of things that have to be done with reference universal insurance and primary care.</p>
<p>I did not want to repeat myself here.  </p>
<p><a href="http://healthcare.change.org/blog/view/why_does_controlling_health_care_spending_cost_money" rel="nofollow">http://healthcare.change.org/blog/view/why_does_controlling_health_care_spending_cost_money</a></p>
<p>I would appreciate any comments.</p>
<p>Bohdan A. Oryshkevich, MD, MPH</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Bob (FP)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Bob (FP)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes both coverage (health insurance) and access (enough PCP&#039;s) to make the system work.  Any reform needs to address both issues.  Many of the universal access people forget about the access side of the equation.  My biggest fear is that congress will take the easy fix and just expand Medicare to cover the uninsured and the system will implode after a couple more years as access to primary care declines.  The system will be unsustainable unless they focus on the inputs to the problem that drive costs - 1. decreasing the numbers developing chronic diseases  which will require major public health initiatives, and 2. decreasing the need for specialty referrals and unnecessary procedures (e.g, MRI&#039;s &amp; coronary stents) by focusing on primary care and prevention.

An example for stents:  We had a CME given by a cardiologist last week on cardiac rehab.  He flipped up a slide and said &quot;Here is a study most of us cardiologists don&#039;t want to become widely known.&quot;  It was a study showing that putting a patient in cardiac rehab was much better than angioplasty for stable angina (88% event free vs. 70%).  In my area of the country, it seems like almost everybody here gets the stent first, and then maybe cardiac rehab if insurance covers it. The patients demand it and the cardiologists are more than willing to oblige.

Our system always covers the stent (and pays very well), but often doesn&#039;t cover the cardiac rehab.  It covers the $200 a month prescription for Actos, Byetta, or Januvia, but often does not cover the referral to the dietician that might prevent the need for the $200 a month medication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes both coverage (health insurance) and access (enough PCP&#8217;s) to make the system work.  Any reform needs to address both issues.  Many of the universal access people forget about the access side of the equation.  My biggest fear is that congress will take the easy fix and just expand Medicare to cover the uninsured and the system will implode after a couple more years as access to primary care declines.  The system will be unsustainable unless they focus on the inputs to the problem that drive costs &#8211; 1. decreasing the numbers developing chronic diseases  which will require major public health initiatives, and 2. decreasing the need for specialty referrals and unnecessary procedures (e.g, MRI&#8217;s &amp; coronary stents) by focusing on primary care and prevention.</p>
<p>An example for stents:  We had a CME given by a cardiologist last week on cardiac rehab.  He flipped up a slide and said &#8220;Here is a study most of us cardiologists don&#8217;t want to become widely known.&#8221;  It was a study showing that putting a patient in cardiac rehab was much better than angioplasty for stable angina (88% event free vs. 70%).  In my area of the country, it seems like almost everybody here gets the stent first, and then maybe cardiac rehab if insurance covers it. The patients demand it and the cardiologists are more than willing to oblige.</p>
<p>Our system always covers the stent (and pays very well), but often doesn&#8217;t cover the cardiac rehab.  It covers the $200 a month prescription for Actos, Byetta, or Januvia, but often does not cover the referral to the dietician that might prevent the need for the $200 a month medication.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor Marxomarxovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Igor Marxomarxovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Russian saying...You can tell same lie 1000 time but not change truth!

Difference between USSR Communist media and USA &quot;mainstream media&quot;

In Russia government make media say what they want - even if lie.  
In USA &quot;mainstream media&quot;  try make government what they want - even if lie..
.....eventually they become same thing?!  

Do we really want someone who can not even show his own birth certificate try &quot;reform&quot; healthcare 

I Igor produce Obama Birth Certificate at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.igormarxo.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.igormaro.org&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Russian saying&#8230;You can tell same lie 1000 time but not change truth!</p>
<p>Difference between USSR Communist media and USA &#8220;mainstream media&#8221;</p>
<p>In Russia government make media say what they want &#8211; even if lie.<br />
In USA &#8220;mainstream media&#8221;  try make government what they want &#8211; even if lie..<br />
&#8230;..eventually they become same thing?!  </p>
<p>Do we really want someone who can not even show his own birth certificate try &#8220;reform&#8221; healthcare </p>
<p>I Igor produce Obama Birth Certificate at <a href="http://www.igormarxo.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.igormaro.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: solo dr</title>
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		<dc:creator>solo dr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my area of Illinois, only an FP residency accepts new Medicaid patients.  Outpatient office visits for a 99213 pay $32, including the $2 copayment.  ER visits have no copay for Medicaid patients.  I can track patients by health coverage, and my Medicaid patients have a 4 times greater likelihood of not showing up to visits and have 2-3 times more phone calls to the office than my privately insured patients.  
I don&#039;t accept new Medicaid patients, outside of ER follow up call.  Most of the new ones from the ER don&#039;t show up.  Illinois tried an All Kids with expansion to All Families, without success, by trying to assign primary care doctors to the patients for a $2 a month capitation average.  Most patients still use the ER and don&#039;t see their assigned primary care providers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my area of Illinois, only an FP residency accepts new Medicaid patients.  Outpatient office visits for a 99213 pay $32, including the $2 copayment.  ER visits have no copay for Medicaid patients.  I can track patients by health coverage, and my Medicaid patients have a 4 times greater likelihood of not showing up to visits and have 2-3 times more phone calls to the office than my privately insured patients.<br />
I don&#8217;t accept new Medicaid patients, outside of ER follow up call.  Most of the new ones from the ER don&#8217;t show up.  Illinois tried an All Kids with expansion to All Families, without success, by trying to assign primary care doctors to the patients for a $2 a month capitation average.  Most patients still use the ER and don&#8217;t see their assigned primary care providers.</p>
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		<title>By: Valuable Internet Information &#187; The complexity of health care reform</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valuable Internet Information &#187; The complexity of health care reform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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