"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - HL Mencken
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"I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." - Confucius
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"The good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the patient who has the disease" - Sir William Osler
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" The best test of a person's character is how he or she treats those with less power." - Bob Sutton
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"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them - well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple." - Charles Mingus
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"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - Albert Einstein
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesman and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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"This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around." - Talking Heads, Life During Wartime
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"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn it." - Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31a
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"You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure is everything and outcomes are nothing." - Thomas Sowell
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"An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup." - HL Mencken
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"If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail." - Abraham Maslow
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"A great teacher is one who realizes that he himself is also a student and whose goal is not to dictate the answers, but to stimulate his students creativity enough so that they go out and find the answers themselves." - Herbie Hancock
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"There are no facts, only interpretations." - Nietzsche
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"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't." - Anatole France
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"In character, in manner, in style, in all things, the supreme excellence is simplicity." - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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Workouts by month - Goal 200 from 11/1/09 through 10/31/10
http://ow.ly/1mYi7 - ABIM MOC program - two differing viewpoints - you can guess my voteMarch 16, 2010 5:06
RT @yejnes: My thoughts on the annual exam, etc., final letter ACP Internist, March 2010 http://bit.ly/9FNcXn wel-stated & importantMarch 15, 2010 12:47
A note to the professors, from the "real" world, on the use of ICDs in a fee for service community... http://ow.ly/1jaPy - great postMarch 13, 2010 2:19
RT @paulinechen: New "Doctor and Patient"; Learning to Keep Patients Safe in a Culture of Fear http://nyti.ms/bYA14V - blog post comingMarch 12, 2010 1:35
RT @tom_peters: @kevinmd Spoken like an MD. - true primary care is very complex - it is not simple care -March 11, 2010 12:43
RT @efalchuk: Seriously, what is Nancy Pelosi Talking About? http://bit.ly/9sHSc2 #healthreform #hcr #healthcare think Dazed and ConfusedMarch 10, 2010 7:53
Obama Says Health Overhaul Should Trump Politics - http://nyti.ms/bwKRyo - and he is correctMarch 8, 2010 7:28
@BertDecker multiples of 37 - trivial - any factor of 111 would factor into the others. The key here is that 37 * 3 = 111March 7, 2010 9:00
If they asked me, these are the initial steps I would take to repair health care:
Scrap RBRVS – this is a failed model. The concept was well considered, but the devil of the details outweighs the purity of concept. We have no good way to evaluate relative value of billing codes. We have bean counters defining the requirements for these billing codes in a way that does not reflect medical practice. Please get rid of this system.
We should pay for time. Surgeons should be paid for all the time that an operation takes, from preparation to pre-op visits, to post-op visits. A surgeon’s time should have a reasonable value, and all that time valued equally. Internists should be paid for seeing patients, answering phone calls, answering emails, and reviewing records. All that time should be valued equally.
We could easily keep records of the time billed to prevent system abuses. Perhaps one could set an arbitrary limit for a standard day, with special designation for unusually long time.
I would have an impartial panel (i.e., no physicians) develop a relatively payment schedule. For example, an internist might have a value of $200/hour and a surgeon $250/hour. I cannot imagine a multiple of greater than 2 between the highest paid and lowest paid physicians.
Physicians could charge extra without penalty. If I have a high demand practice, I might accept insurance at $200/hr but require another $50/hour for my services. Obviously this would reward more successful, experience physicians – just like any other professional. Physicians could wave these fees arbitrarily.
I would have patients involved in all financial decision making. For example, we might cover generic ("Wal-Mart") drugs, and have a prorated surcharge for newer drugs. We would obviously make exceptions when there is no reasonable generic equivalent.
We cannot control costs without malpractice reform. We can write articles about unnecessary CT scanning or MRIs, but there are always lawyers lurking to sue physicians who do not overtest. The use of CT scanning in the emergency department is almost scandalous, but ER docs live in fear of suits, so they test.
We need great relief from government mandates which impact office overhead. Obviously, in my immodest plan, billing would be much more simple, thus decreasing the billing office needs. We need to make allowances for HIPAA, and translation services – not expecting the physician to have to pay with reimbursement.
Clearly my plan is not totally developed. I would love critiques and friendly (or hostile) additions.
Those are good ideas! Tort reform is an absolute necessity as the fear driven model of medical practice is not working for doctors or patients.
Two questions:
1. If we took all the payments that we are are currently making for health insurance (individuals, business and government), how much would that amount to?
2. Is it possible that we already are paying enough money to cover everyone if we stopped wasting so much on unnecessary care (i.e that driven by fear of suits)?
Obviously, we all need to discuss this very thoroughly if there are to be any productive changes in the current system.
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1. If you pay an internist $X/hr, what is to prevent her from seeing 1 patient per hour? If you then require Y pts/hr, that’s how many she will see. Is this an improvement?
2. You don’t see a need for a multiple of greater than 2 between the lowest and highest paid specialties (presumable this is net of practice costs). If a senior student has the choice of earning $200/hr after a 3 year primary care residency, or $250 after a decade of post-grad training to become a pediatric cardiac surgeon, there will be a lot of dead babies.
3. I agree completely with balance billing, tort reform proposal, and the need to scrap RBRVS.
4. The answer to the unfunded mandates forced on the profession is not to get govt to pay us. The answer is to remove the mandate. Bring your own damn translator, or accept the fact that we will do our best under the circumstances.
Government “oversight” has gotten us into this predicament. The answer is to get the govt out of the medical business, not further into it. I’m old enough to remember life before Medicare and Medicaid. The streets of America were not not filled with the corpses of people who needed medical care but could not get it. Docs worked in charity clinics and waived fees for poor folks and people got the care they needed. It wasn’t perfect, but better than the system we have to live in today.
Actually the pediatric cardiac surgeon has much lower overhead since much of his time is spent at the hospital and OR where another entity(the hospital) pays rent, staff costs, etc. So $400/hr is significantly more than double $200/hr actually in his pocket.
JB is exactly right. The problem isn’t that we have the wrong physician payment system. The problem is that we shouldn’t have a physician payment system. Let individual doctors and individual patients find the price and the payment scheme that works best for them.
Does anyone remember the free exchange of goods and services through mutually voluntary transaction? They used to call it capitalism. It’s much maligned but all other systems are worse.
8 Responses to If they asked me
JPB
November 5th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
Those are good ideas! Tort reform is an absolute necessity as the fear driven model of medical practice is not working for doctors or patients.
Two questions:
1. If we took all the payments that we are are currently making for health insurance (individuals, business and government), how much would that amount to?
2. Is it possible that we already are paying enough money to cover everyone if we stopped wasting so much on unnecessary care (i.e that driven by fear of suits)?
Obviously, we all need to discuss this very thoroughly if there are to be any productive changes in the current system.
kayla
November 6th, 2008 at 1:13 am
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jb
November 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am
1. If you pay an internist $X/hr, what is to prevent her from seeing 1 patient per hour? If you then require Y pts/hr, that’s how many she will see. Is this an improvement?
2. You don’t see a need for a multiple of greater than 2 between the lowest and highest paid specialties (presumable this is net of practice costs). If a senior student has the choice of earning $200/hr after a 3 year primary care residency, or $250 after a decade of post-grad training to become a pediatric cardiac surgeon, there will be a lot of dead babies.
3. I agree completely with balance billing, tort reform proposal, and the need to scrap RBRVS.
4. The answer to the unfunded mandates forced on the profession is not to get govt to pay us. The answer is to remove the mandate. Bring your own damn translator, or accept the fact that we will do our best under the circumstances.
Government “oversight” has gotten us into this predicament. The answer is to get the govt out of the medical business, not further into it. I’m old enough to remember life before Medicare and Medicaid. The streets of America were not not filled with the corpses of people who needed medical care but could not get it. Docs worked in charity clinics and waived fees for poor folks and people got the care they needed. It wasn’t perfect, but better than the system we have to live in today.
jb
November 6th, 2008 at 10:23 am
Oops- even if the pediatric cardia surgeon makes $400/hr, it’s not a good choice.
ToLAzyTOThinkOfOne
November 6th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Actually the pediatric cardiac surgeon has much lower overhead since much of his time is spent at the hospital and OR where another entity(the hospital) pays rent, staff costs, etc. So $400/hr is significantly more than double $200/hr actually in his pocket.
Dr_Dredd
November 6th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
With respect to paying for a doctor’s time, the lawyers have been doing this for ages. Why can’t we have something like the billable hour?
Albert
November 7th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
JB is exactly right. The problem isn’t that we have the wrong physician payment system. The problem is that we shouldn’t have a physician payment system. Let individual doctors and individual patients find the price and the payment scheme that works best for them.
Does anyone remember the free exchange of goods and services through mutually voluntary transaction? They used to call it capitalism. It’s much maligned but all other systems are worse.
The Happy Hospitalist
November 9th, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Doc. If you have the money to give, they have the ears to listen. The wheels of justice are dependent on the thickness of the grease.