"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - HL Mencken
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"I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." - Confucius
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"The good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the patient who has the disease" - Sir William Osler
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" The best test of a person's character is how he or she treats those with less power." - Bob Sutton
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"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them - well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple." - Charles Mingus
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"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - Albert Einstein
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesman and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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"This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around." - Talking Heads, Life During Wartime
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"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn it." - Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31a
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"You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure is everything and outcomes are nothing." - Thomas Sowell
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"An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup." - HL Mencken
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"If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail." - Abraham Maslow
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"A great teacher is one who realizes that he himself is also a student and whose goal is not to dictate the answers, but to stimulate his students creativity enough so that they go out and find the answers themselves." - Herbie Hancock
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"There are no facts, only interpretations." - Nietzsche
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"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't." - Anatole France
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"In character, in manner, in style, in all things, the supreme excellence is simplicity." - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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I focus on stage III because that is the generalist's responsibility. We have around 7-8 million Americans with stage III CKD. We do not have enough nephrologists to see all these patients.
Most patients with stage III die prior to progressing to stage IV or V. They mostly die of CAD – thus we should always remember to address coronary artery disease prevention aggressively in these patients.
We generally classify patients using eGFR (estimated GFR.) We use 1 or 2 formulas – Cockcroft-Gault or MDRD. These formulas assume average muscle mass for demographics. They do not work accurately for those with excess muscle mass (e.g., NFL football players), decreased muscle mass (muscular dystrophies, major amputations, cord injury patients) or when the patient's creatinine is not stable (in acute renal failure with a changing creatinine one cannot estimate or measure GFR.)
I suspect in the future we will estimate GFR using a combination of serum creatinine and serum cystatin C measurements – combined eGFR estimation.
Our main goal for stage I and II extends to stage III – delay progression of disease. We know that decreasing urine protein delays progression of disease. Currently we use ACE-I & ARBs (the combination is better than either alone) to maximize this decrease. I have seen some research studies starting on newer approaches to decrease proteinuria and thus delay progression. We also try to maximize blood pressure control as this additionally delays progression.
We generally estimate progression with the graph of 1/creatinine versus time. Studies of progression often use the slope of this line as an outcome parameter.
Recent research suggests that we may soon divide stage III into IIIa (eGFR 45-60) and IIIb (eGFR 30-45.) Most of the metabolic consequences of decreased GFR do not occur until IIIb or IV.
I generally focus on 3 consequences – anemia, mineral metabolism and normal gap acidosis.
Anemia – some IIIb patients will develop anemia. I currently believe that all patients with Hgb < 10 and CKD deserve erythropoietin and some between 10 and 11 (especially if they also have CHF.) The goal of therapy in 2008 is a Hgb of 11.5. (New anemia guidelines) Remember that most patients will also need iron supplementation, usually IV with iron sucrose.
Mineral metabolism – many IIIb patients develop secondary hyperparathyroidism. The hyperPTH is traditionally taught to be related to hypocalcemia from decreased vitamin D metabolism and from the increased phosphate levels from decreased excretion. Currently the phosphotonin FGF 23 has received much attention as a contributor to these problems.
We should regularly measure calcium, phosphate and PTH levels in CKD patients. We can start treating hypocalcemia and/or hyperphosphatemia with calcium (calcium carbonate or gluconate or citrate.) We can add vitamin D. If we cannot control the calcium or phosphate with this approach alone, I refer the patient to nephrology. They will probably start sevelamer – a phosphate binder.
If the patient develops a normal gap acidosis – start sodium citrate at about 0.5 cc/kg. I spent about 5 minutes discussing this issue – if the readership is interested I can do another entry on this problem alone.
If the patient will need dialysis in less than 1 year or one stage IV is reached – consider preparation for end stage management. If the patient has the characteristics of a good transplant candidate – refer to a transplant center. If the patient will need hemodialysis, establish an AV fistula and allow it to mature prior to needing it.
I hope this summary gives some of the flavor of our discussion. Clearly this is incomplete – my standard CKD talk takes almost an hour.
thanks for this. I recently learned I have stage III chronic kidney disease. My reason: I was born with one kidney, and only learned this a few years ago, by chance. But no one really told me at the time what I should watch for/do. So it’s useful information for me.
I HAVE STAGE 3 KIDNEY FAILURE..MY KIDNEY DOCTOR HAS NOT TALKED TO ME ABOUT TAKING IRON BUT DOES RECCOMEND VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS WHAT IS THW DOSAGE I SHOULD TAKE IN IRON AND VITAMIN D????
[...] We finished rounds for morning report – good thing because I was the attending for morning report. Most of morning report was based on patient 3 and I talked about the issues in this previous rant – Stage III CKD [...]
4 Responses to Stage III CKD
Kate
April 30th, 2008 at 10:48 am
Very sensible advise. I wish all general internists knew this. You’re right, nephrologists can’t handle all of these stage III patients.
oenothera
July 14th, 2008 at 9:27 am
thanks for this. I recently learned I have stage III chronic kidney disease. My reason: I was born with one kidney, and only learned this a few years ago, by chance. But no one really told me at the time what I should watch for/do. So it’s useful information for me.
BARBARA REYNOLDS
March 15th, 2009 at 3:39 am
I HAVE STAGE 3 KIDNEY FAILURE..MY KIDNEY DOCTOR HAS NOT TALKED TO ME ABOUT TAKING IRON BUT DOES RECCOMEND VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS WHAT IS THW DOSAGE I SHOULD TAKE IN IRON AND VITAMIN D????
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November 21st, 2009 at 7:34 am
[...] We finished rounds for morning report – good thing because I was the attending for morning report. Most of morning report was based on patient 3 and I talked about the issues in this previous rant – Stage III CKD [...]