Graham wrote yesterday:
Some might argue that these “highly ethical physicians†aren’t so highly ethical by practicing retainer medicine. One ethical framework would suggest if all physicians just practiced retainer medicine, there would not be nearly enough physicians to go around. In that framework, retainer medicine would be viewed as unethical.
(I also don’t really get how Dr. Centor combats the classist and racist arguments he brings up. They’re totally valid, and I can’t help but draw a parallel between retainer medicine and insurance company cherry-picking, the latter I find to be despicable in its bottom-line philosophy. By practicing retainer medicine, you are selecting out for people who can afford to pay extra, and health and SES are intrinsically linked (and also race), so you’re essentially picking out people who are already healthier.
I am delighted that Graham responded as he did. Graham is an idealistic 5th year med student (he spent a year doing research.) He plans to do emergency medicine, currently applying for residencies. He apparently favors a single payer system. I garnered all this information from his excellent web site.
My son was an English major. He often had me read his essays interpreting books or authors. I love his writing style, and noted a common technique that he used. He would start by explaining the simple interpretation of the novel (or poem, or short story), and then use the phrase “on further reflection.” I love that phrase. I believe it applies to our understanding of the retainer medicine movement.
Disclaimer: I only work as an inpatient attending these days (plus multiple administrative roles.) I have never done retainer medicine, and have no personal desire to establish a retainer practice. I am writing from the vantage point of one who has cared for patients and observed health care delivery since entering medical school in 1971.
Most critics object to retainer medicine on financial grounds. They state that the financing of retainer medicine takes these physicians away from the under-served and towards the well heeled. They believe that the only motivation for these practices is money.
Upon further reflection, one must evaluate the current status of outpatient internal medicine (because currently the great majority of retainer practices are internal medicine.) Physicians are fleeing from outpatient internal medicine. Our current reimbursement model causes physicians to run on a treadmill, destroys their work life balance, and leads to a constant sense that they are delivering substandard care.
Look at our residents. Very few choose outpatient medicine these days. They either choose subspecialties or hospitalist jobs.
Look at practicing outpatient internists. They are leaving practice at a steady rate. Some switch to hospital medicine. Some go back to do fellowships. Some leave medicine entirely.
Now I know that I am being somewhat hyperbolic, but I believe that I am not exaggerating greatly. I have attended to many teeth gnashing sessions about the future of outpatient internal medicine.
What are the features of the reimbursement system that drive this despair? First, Medicare provides a standard reimbursement for each level of visit. The levels depend on documentation and complexity. However, for our most complex patients, who really need longer visits, we really cannot bill for the necessary time. Second, Medicare does not pay for reviewing labs, contacting patients, phone calls or emails. The only way you can bill is when you see the patient. Third, as goes Medicare, so go the other insurers.
Medicine has become much more complex over the past 30 years. We know more; we can do more; our sicker patients live longer. More patients have diabetes mellitus – which by itself is a complex disease. More patients live with heart disease. Many patients have more than 5 medications, each of which can cause side effects and interactions. We have more preventive measures to order.
We need more time to do our job properly. Time equals money, but the insurers do not pay for our time.
So we go to talks to learn who to keep visit lengths short and improve documentation to improve billings. We avoid telephone calls, because they cost time, and time equals money. We eschew email for the same reason. We avoid open ended questions because they might cost time.
Most outpatient physicians practice medicine in a way that insidiously harms their self esteem. They know that they are not providing the best care. They know that they cannot provide their patients with the support that they really need.
I believe that most retainer physicians see their practice style as the only tenable solution. I suspect that many of them would have left practice for another job if they did not have this option.
If retainer physicians are unethical, then what about physicians who quit seeing patients entirely and enter medical administration. What about any variety of subspecialists?
Upon further reflection we should learn from this ongoing entrepreneurial experiment. Why are patients choosing to spend moneys on retainer medicine? I believe patients are smart. They are tired of the relative inattention that most physicians can provide. They want their physician (not a nurse or physician extender) to talk with them on the phone. They want a call as soon as the lab work returns. They want to completely understand each medicine, each test and each consultation.
Many argue that if everyone switched to retainer practice, we would not have enough physicians. I would argue that as retainer medicine grows, it will start to attract medical students and residents. These practices allow work life balance. These practices allow physicians to feel good about the quality of care they deliver. These practices give patients what they desire.
If retainer medicine continues to grow, I predict that some subspecialists will revert to the internal medicine roots and opt for this practice. Retainer physicians develop deep doctor patient relationships.
The major argument against retainer medicine comes from the concept of social justice. Our current system provides no social justice. Single payer systems do not provide social justice. The concept of social justice transcends any individual physician. Perhaps we can reinvent health care around the retainer concept. Perhaps it would cost less than our current madness.
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December 27th, 2007 at 9:10 am
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Graham
December 27th, 2007 at 9:25 am
Great response, Dr. Centor. Expect my rebuttal shortly.
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December 27th, 2007 at 10:12 am
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anonymous
December 27th, 2007 at 10:24 am
Single payer systems do not provide social justice.
What???? I almost choked when I read that. The whole motivation for a single-payer system is social equity, fairness, and, yes, “justice.” Granted, it’s an uphill battle to get there (and the proposals set forth thus far are fraught with problems), but as an ideal, a single-payer system is the fairest way to provide necessary medical care to all who need it.
Unless by “justice” you mean “high compensation to doctors.” Judging by the rest of your post, I would not be surprised if this was your implication.
Jared
December 27th, 2007 at 2:23 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but let me re-set the frame of the thought experiment. If I, as a physician, choose to not accept Medicare, who artificially sets my costs to my patients, then I am able to set my costs for my patients at will.
And if I choose to do a retainer service, doesn’t that also mean that I probably have the right or privilege to produce a number of “scholarships” for the retainer to patients as I choose?
And, if I am a shrewd businessperson as well, wouldn’t I be able to then spread this out over the course of each visit such that I actually don’t have to ask for a retainer up front? Where does the injustice occur in those tweakings?
It sounds like my 7 year-old niece’s complaints about trying a new food because “It’s weird.” We know that the current social experiment is failing spectacularly. So, when does the presence of mind to appreciate those brave enough to try something different come to bear?
Candace
December 27th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
This is a lovely post. And, as a previous academic internal medicine subspecialist (with friends who designed retainer practices), you articulate the reasons physicians go this route very nicely. I’d like to underscore the point about physicians in today’s climate not being able to meet their own level of comfort in patient care. This was something I dealt with chronically, even in an academic institution. There was never “enough time” or “enough resources,” and the person in the end who suffers the most is the physican who loses his time (and all that goes with that –> = family, spouse, hobbies –> life). As a previous clerkship director, I found that medical students enjoy discussing the inadequacies of our current system; yet, their framework for the personal sacrifices on the part of the PHYSICIAN was lacking. They simply hadn’t yet experienced the dissonance that arises in IM patient care today.
I would like to ask why, in today’s world where “two consenting adults” can have any variety of relationships, why then can two consenting adults not establish a medical one? If a physician delivers excellent care, and a person pays for that care, why is that somehow cheating others? I’d like to challenge those who believe this to be true to devote their entire future careers to academic medicine, because to do otherwise is hypocritical–as any sort of private practice health care is “medicine for money.” And they will be very unlikely to care for a large indigent population in private practice.
Jared’s point is spot-on regarding a physician’s ability to behave philanthropically at any such time as he desires to do so. And, upon further reflection of my own life, I am far more inclined to do when when I see a need for it, as opposed to be forced to do so by a single party pay system (which is only arguably philanthropic anyway).
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Tor
December 27th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
I don’t see what’s the big deal. you worked hard to get where you are, you provide an advanced service, you should expect proper compensation…simple math really.
If we reframe this issue then perhaps the powers that be should also schedule car prices (or any such important good) so that every person that can or can’t afford a car can go to a dealer and still walk away with one.
It really baffles me that people (or the insurance industry) use this “morality” veil as the reason why doctors shouldn’t expect appropriate compensation for their services.
And if that be the case, then equalize the playing field…don’t make us go to school 10+ years so that upon entering practice one can watch some insurance company dude laugh all the way to the bank with money that he didn’t work for.
I say 4 years to become a doctor if that’s the case (4 years total).
a duck is duck, man! and if they have the right to treat it as a “good” why can’t doctors?
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