Opinions on the Terry Schiavo situation

22 Mar
2005

From the NY Times – A Blow to the Rule of Law

That should have settled the matter. But supporters of Ms. Schiavo’s parents, particularly members of the religious right, leaned heavily on Congress and the White House to step in. They did so yesterday with the new law, which gives “any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo” standing to sue in federal court to keep her alive.

This narrow focus is offensive. The founders believed in a nation in which, as Justice Robert Jackson once wrote, we would “submit ourselves to rulers only if under rules.” There is no place in such a system for a special law creating rights for only one family. The White House insists that the law will not be a precedent. But that means that the right to bring such claims in federal court is reserved for people with enough political pull to get a law passed that names them in the text.

The Bush administration and the current Congressional leadership like to wax eloquent about states’ rights. But they dropped those principles in their rush to stampede over the Florida courts and Legislature. The new law doesn’t miss a chance to trample on the state’s autonomy and dignity. There are a variety of technical legal doctrines the federal courts use to show deference to state courts, like “abstention” and “exhaustion of remedies.” The new law decrees that in Ms. Schiavo’s case, these well-established doctrines simply will not apply.

From the Washington Times – Sustaining life

Indeed, it’s disturbing that a system of laws affords more protection to death-row inmates than an innocent and disabled woman. Without knowing as fact what Mrs. Schiavo’s wishes were, it was right for Congress to intervene.

We usually do not favor the federal government pre-emptively intruding into a civil issue of the states. But in light of the many distortions and ambiguities of fact presented in the Schiavo case, substance must trump procedure. After signing the bill early yesterday morning, Mr. Bush succinctly expressed this point of view: “In cases like this one, where there are serious questions and substantial doubts, our society, our laws and our courts should have a presumption in favor of life.” We agree.

It was an act of pure hypocrisy for certain Democrats who voted against the Schiavo bill to cite federalism in their defense. Liberals are only too willing to let federal courts decide for the country on matters they deem protected by the Constitution, like abortion and same-sex “marriage.” Yet in a case where it appears that Mrs. Schiavo’s 14th Amendment right to due process is violated, they shamelessly wave the flag of “states’ rights.”

And the judge rules quickly – Judge Rejects Schiavo Appeal

U.S. District Judge James Whittemore (search) said the 41-year-old woman’s parents had not established a “substantial likelihood of success” at trial on the merits of their arguments.

This story continues to ignite great passion. The comments that this story engenders seem (to this observer) much more heartfelt than for most issues that I discuss. If we believe in the rule of law then the process should no longer be challenged. But we all argue against the law when we feel strongly about the result. For we all focus more on results than on process.

I have previously ranted about the hypocrisy of the states’ right argument. Each side (here I assume that most issues have two sides – often Republican and Democrat) invokes states’ rights when they find it convenient.

I have remained reasonably consistent about states’ rights. I would like to see states have the right to allow gay marriage, medical marijuana, different rules for Medicaid, etc. This unfortunate patient has given some in the Congress to grandstand politically.

This post will likely incite some comments telling me what an idiot I am – that I do not really understand all the issues in this patient’s story. Please refrain from such ad hominem attacks. I have made my position clear. I respect those who disagree with me – and I only ask that they respect my position. The courts have, in my opinion, consistently reviewed this patient’s care and agreed with her husband’s position. I see no evidence of bias here. Therefore, I must agree with the courts.

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9 Responses to Opinions on the Terry Schiavo situation

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RGL

March 22nd, 2005 at 9:27 am

I agree with DB. The decision has been rendered, and no matter what our positions are on this isuue, we need to heed the judgement of the court.

The editorials of the NY Times and the Washington Times capture the split in thinking about this issue.

Everybody has been heard, and there are no winners or losers. Which means let’s leave politics aside and just be thankful we live in a country where we can passionately debate matters of this magnitude and disagree with one another. It’s a triumph of the rule of law.

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Keith Sader

March 22nd, 2005 at 11:51 am

What’s amazing in all of the noise, is that no one has bothered to interview any other long-term terminally ill survivor. I’m sure more people have witnessed and gone through these slow deaths than the Schiavo family.

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John Anderson

March 22nd, 2005 at 2:56 pm

TImes “This narrow focus is offensive.”
Maybe, but it is also standard. Every year a number of bills make it through Congress that pertain to a single person. Mostly one-time accolades, sure, but not always.

Keith Sader, look around. At least one person who was diagnosed as in a “persistent vegetative state” and had her feeding tube removed has been in the news – talking about the experience!

But yes, the original case under Judge Greer found no legal basis for transferring guardianship from husband to parent[s]. The appellate decisions repeatedly upheld that by not finding Judge Greer did anything procedurally wrong.

There are a number of strange things in the case, but the matter of removing feeding/hydration seems settled.

Not that it will necessarily end. One blogger pointed out that the famous trust fund was established with wording to the effect it was to be used for treatments (including but not lmited to rehab attempts) – but of the 700+ thousand, 500+ has gone to lawyers defending the position that such treatments should not be done. Do we smell a civil law suit charging malfeasance?

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John Anderson

March 22nd, 2005 at 3:02 pm

Times: “The Bush administration and the current Congressional leadership like to wax eloquent about states’ rights. But they dropped those principles in their rush to stampede over the Florida courts and Legislature.”

Uh, the Florida legislature passed a bill to keep the feeding and hydration in place. But it was declared unconstitutional as passed. A corrected version was punted when the Federal legislature showed willing to pass their law. Hardly dropping states’ rights.

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Matt

March 22nd, 2005 at 6:52 pm

I had not been keeping track of the Schiavo case. (While keeping me down to an 80 hour work week preserves my sanity, it does not allow me sufficient web-browsing time).

I am shocked that Congress would make a law specifically pertaining to a single individual! From the vague things I heard, I assumed that they would be writing a universal law pertaining to feeding tubes, or life support for the mentally incompetent. I figured I’d probably disagree with it, but I had no idea they were doing something so morally repugnant.

I’d like to think that all US citizens have “equal protection of the laws.” How dare they they extend more protection to “any parent of Theresa Marie Schiavo” than other citizens?

Replace

“The suit may be brought against any other person who was a party to State court proceedings relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain the life of Theresa Marie Schiavo..”

with

“The suit may be brought against any other person who was a party to State court proceedings relating to the withholding or withdrawal of food, fluids, or medical treatment necessary to sustain the life of any person of white race”

and I think my point becomes clearer.

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Barbara

March 25th, 2005 at 8:41 pm

What bothers me about the whole situation, are the protestors praying and claiming replacing the feeding tube would be morally correct. If these holy rollers had enough faith in God, they would leave Terry’s fate in His hands. I don’t believe living with a feeding tube is natural. If Terry lives without it, then it truly is God’s will.

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Jack Caffey

March 26th, 2005 at 9:32 am

“The courts have, in my opinion, consistently reviewed this patient’s care and agreed with her husband’s position. I see no evidence of bias here.” As Andrew McCarthy has noted elsewhere, the court reviews have looked only to determine an abuse of discretion by Judge Greer in his findings — the higher courts have NOT reviewed and weighed again whether Terri is in PVS, whether she has been cared for properly, or any other FACTUAL determination. Judge Greer decided the facts long long ago and that is why no MRI or PET scan or other tests have been required: an appellate review looks only to PROCEDURE and whether all the little pieces of paper got filed on time. The US Congressional bill required a ‘de novo’ review, meaning to go back and look at the FACTS again, but the court decided oddly to intrepret this as looking at only the PROCEDURAL aspects. So no, the courts have not ‘consistently reviewed’ the FACTS, as you assume. Death by bureaucracy.

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Andrew H. Clapham

March 28th, 2005 at 1:57 pm

It is amazing that the arguments of the Schiavo case have reached these heights… I would like to address one comment in particular:

posted by Barbara:
I don’t believe living with a feeding tube is natural. If Terry lives without it, then it truly is God’s will.

Truly, you must live in a shell. There are thousands of people who require feeding tubes– there are also millions of others on specific medications that correct medical deficiencies and abnormalities. If we all placed faith in God under your terms, well, a lot of people are going to die. The advances in medicine allow all of us to live beyond what those diagnosed with similar ailments could 20, 50, 100 years ago.

But that alone digresses from the real issue– and that is that this is NOT a ‘right-to-die’ battle but a question of ownership.

There is a human life at stake. This is a human life that is wanted and cherished by her family. This is not someone who has been comatose for 15 years and has not ever opened her eyes– vegetative state or not.

The courts have (correctly in terms of the law) defended Michael’s case that he holds Terry’s fate in his hands.

These are the same courts that require a jury to find ‘beyond a reasonable doubt’ when trying murder cases. Here, we have word of mouth from Michael that Terry would not have wanted to live this way. That’s it.
What other case has relied soley on word of mouth?

In the end, I am still questioning the polls out there which suggest a majority support for Michael. It seems contradictory. I do know this: no self-respecting parent would ever side with Michael. Imagine that it were your son or daughter lying in terry’s stead. Now imagine that you are willing to commit yourself to your child’s care. Now imagine that your son/daughter in-law has usurped your wishes.

Michael should step aside.

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Kevin Slotboom

June 2nd, 2005 at 8:37 am

Hello everyone,

First of all, my deapest respect to terri’s family and other loved ones.

all I want to say about terri’s case is that I think it is a shame that the situation has been blown out of proportion like this. It should have stayed within the family instead of becoming a national issue, and a way for politicians to gain votes. It is still a human life we are talking about here.

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