"For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong." - HL Mencken
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"I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand." - Confucius
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"The good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the patient who has the disease" - Sir William Osler
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" The best test of a person's character is how he or she treats those with less power." - Bob Sutton
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"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them - well, I have others." - Groucho Marx
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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"It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them" - Friedrich Nietzsche
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"Anyone can make the simple complicated. Creativity is making the complicated simple." - Charles Mingus
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"Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." - Albert Einstein
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"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesman and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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"This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around." - Talking Heads, Life During Wartime
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"What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour. This is the whole Torah; all the rest is commentary. Go and learn it." - Hillel, Talmud, Shabbath 31a
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"You will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure is everything and outcomes are nothing." - Thomas Sowell
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"An idealist is one who, on noticing that a rose smells better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup." - HL Mencken
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"If you only have a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail." - Abraham Maslow
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"A great teacher is one who realizes that he himself is also a student and whose goal is not to dictate the answers, but to stimulate his students creativity enough so that they go out and find the answers themselves." - Herbie Hancock
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"There are no facts, only interpretations." - Nietzsche
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"An education isn't how much you have committed to memory, or even how much you know. It's being able to differentiate between what you do know and what you don't." - Anatole France
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"In character, in manner, in style, in all things, the supreme excellence is simplicity." - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
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Dan Lambe, executive director of Texas Watch, said the site is attempting to scare patients.
“This type of blacklisting runs counter to the Hippocratic Oath to the ethical and moral goals and obligations of medical professionals,” Lambe said.
Dr. John Shannon Jones, a radiologist who created the database, could not be reached by The Associated Press for comment Friday. He told The Wall Street Journal that people who sue doctors are going to find their access to health care may be limited.
“That’s a harsh thing to say, but this is a war,” said Jones, who has settled two malpractice cases.
Why should patients and others who engage in predatory litigation feel free to do so without scrutiny? Filings are public records and can be lawfully published. Why can’t the names of those who file be available as well?
As for electing which patients a doctor admits to his practice (outside emergency room obligations), the right to admit or exclude is pretty much the doctor’s choice.
As usual, we get beat over the head with the Hippocratic Oath by people who have never read the Oath.
There is NOTHING in the Hippocratic Oath that requires you to enter into a physician-patient relationship if you choose not to enter.
Remember “whatever house I may enter”, you are expected to behave in certain ways, keep secrets, not seduce anyone, stay within your field of expertise (not “cut for the stone”, leave to practitioners of that art), act with the patient’s best interests in mind and all that……but there is nothing in the Oath that says you must enter the “house” in the first place.
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
iHealthbeat [free registration] reported on the WSJs article on DoctorsKnow.Us which lists patients, their attorneys and expert witnesses involved in malpractice lawsuits in order to reduce “frivolous” cases. According to founder Dr. John Jones, it has…
Since civil court filings are public matters, I have no complaint about whatever use doctors make of this information. I should note that there’s nothing new or remarkable about this sort of database. Employers and rental management companies have tracked lawsuits for a long time.
I would, however, note the unfairness in that information in the National Practitioners Database is unavailable to the public.
South Carolina Dr. 169186 botched a medical treatment so badly his insurance company paid $9.9 million to the victim. He might be your doctor. Chances are you’ll never know. Dr. 169186 is identified only by number in the National Practitioners Data Base, a federal registry that tracks doctors whose insurance has paid patients, or families of patients, who doctors accidentally killed or injured. Federal law protects Dr. 169186’s identity, as well as the identities of 36 other S.C. doctors whose insurers have paid more than $1 million each to victims of medicalerrors.
In NY State, information on any complaint against a doctor, including doctor’s name and address (even if it is not directly related to medical malpractice, like, insurance or tax fraud) can be found on a public website (I browsed through it myself). So, while a national database might not have any info, check out what your state offers. Also, unfortunately, a large monetary judgement against a provider does not necessarily imply that that provider is incompetent in this day and age. However, I do think that doctors have to be more proactive about keeping incompetent physicians from practicing.
As described, the site represents information that can be used, or abused. The data on the site might be used fairly, or unfairly, rightly, or wrongly.
For example, if a patient surfaced as a malpractice claimaint several times, there is a very good chance that the patient is as interested in identifying a new potential defendant as seeking medical care. A doctor who refused to see such a patient in a non-emergency context is doing nothing wrong, in my judgment.
On the other hand, a doctor who routinely excludes any patient who has ever lodged a single complaint is probably not being fair to the patient, or his or her fellow physicians.
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
iHealthbeat [free registration] reported on the WSJs article on DoctorsKnow.Us which lists patients, their attorneys and expert witnesses involved in malpractice lawsuits in order to reduce “frivolous” cases. According to founder Dr. John Jones, it has…
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
Update: Bard-Parker breaks the news among medbloggers that DoctorsKnow.Us closed shop, turned tail, and ranDoctorsKnow.Us has permanently ceased operations as of 3/9/04. The controversy this site has ignited was unanticipated and has polarized opinions…
Abrupt demise of doc-suers database
Targeted by trial lawyer allies in a short but effective media campaign, the website DoctorsKnow.Us (see Mar. 9) has now closed up shop, leaving the following message: “DoctorsKnow.Us has permanently ceased operations as of 3/9/04. The controversy this…
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
Update: NPR’s ‘Talk of the Nation’ Discusses Removal of Malpractice Web Site With Plaintiff Database [free membership] Update: Bard-Parker breaks the news among medbloggers that DoctorsKnow.Us closed shop, turned tail, and ranDoctorsKnow.Us has permane…
11 Responses to More on the malpractice web site
CHenry
March 6th, 2004 at 10:11 am
Why should patients and others who engage in predatory litigation feel free to do so without scrutiny? Filings are public records and can be lawfully published. Why can’t the names of those who file be available as well?
As for electing which patients a doctor admits to his practice (outside emergency room obligations), the right to admit or exclude is pretty much the doctor’s choice.
arf
March 6th, 2004 at 4:41 pm
As usual, we get beat over the head with the Hippocratic Oath by people who have never read the Oath.
There is NOTHING in the Hippocratic Oath that requires you to enter into a physician-patient relationship if you choose not to enter.
Remember “whatever house I may enter”, you are expected to behave in certain ways, keep secrets, not seduce anyone, stay within your field of expertise (not “cut for the stone”, leave to practitioners of that art), act with the patient’s best interests in mind and all that……but there is nothing in the Oath that says you must enter the “house” in the first place.
GruntDoc
March 6th, 2004 at 5:00 pm
Dr. Parker has some good quotes from those who would use the Hippocratic oath as an argument against this.
http://cut-to-cure.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_cut-to-cure_archive.html#107858915852511989
medmusings
March 6th, 2004 at 5:43 pm
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
iHealthbeat [free registration] reported on the WSJs article on DoctorsKnow.Us which lists patients, their attorneys and expert witnesses involved in malpractice lawsuits in order to reduce “frivolous” cases. According to founder Dr. John Jones, it has…
Bernie Simon
March 6th, 2004 at 7:09 pm
Since civil court filings are public matters, I have no complaint about whatever use doctors make of this information. I should note that there’s nothing new or remarkable about this sort of database. Employers and rental management companies have tracked lawsuits for a long time.
I would, however, note the unfairness in that information in the National Practitioners Database is unavailable to the public.
South Carolina Dr. 169186 botched a medical treatment so badly his insurance company paid $9.9 million to the victim. He might be your doctor. Chances are you’ll never know. Dr. 169186 is identified only by number in the National Practitioners Data Base, a federal registry that tracks doctors whose insurance has paid patients, or families of patients, who doctors accidentally killed or injured. Federal law protects Dr. 169186’s identity, as well as the identities of 36 other S.C. doctors whose insurers have paid more than $1 million each to victims of medicalerrors.
resident's wife
March 6th, 2004 at 9:45 pm
To Bernie:
In NY State, information on any complaint against a doctor, including doctor’s name and address (even if it is not directly related to medical malpractice, like, insurance or tax fraud) can be found on a public website (I browsed through it myself). So, while a national database might not have any info, check out what your state offers. Also, unfortunately, a large monetary judgement against a provider does not necessarily imply that that provider is incompetent in this day and age. However, I do think that doctors have to be more proactive about keeping incompetent physicians from practicing.
Jack
March 6th, 2004 at 9:46 pm
As described, the site represents information that can be used, or abused. The data on the site might be used fairly, or unfairly, rightly, or wrongly.
For example, if a patient surfaced as a malpractice claimaint several times, there is a very good chance that the patient is as interested in identifying a new potential defendant as seeking medical care. A doctor who refused to see such a patient in a non-emergency context is doing nothing wrong, in my judgment.
On the other hand, a doctor who routinely excludes any patient who has ever lodged a single complaint is probably not being fair to the patient, or his or her fellow physicians.
medmusings
March 10th, 2004 at 12:39 am
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
iHealthbeat [free registration] reported on the WSJs article on DoctorsKnow.Us which lists patients, their attorneys and expert witnesses involved in malpractice lawsuits in order to reduce “frivolous” cases. According to founder Dr. John Jones, it has…
medmusings
March 10th, 2004 at 10:18 pm
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
Update: Bard-Parker breaks the news among medbloggers that DoctorsKnow.Us closed shop, turned tail, and ranDoctorsKnow.Us has permanently ceased operations as of 3/9/04. The controversy this site has ignited was unanticipated and has polarized opinions…
Overlawyered
March 11th, 2004 at 8:12 am
Abrupt demise of doc-suers database
Targeted by trial lawyer allies in a short but effective media campaign, the website DoctorsKnow.Us (see Mar. 9) has now closed up shop, leaving the following message: “DoctorsKnow.Us has permanently ceased operations as of 3/9/04. The controversy this…
medmusings
March 12th, 2004 at 7:00 pm
DoctorsKnow.Us should not be used to deny patient care
Update: NPR’s ‘Talk of the Nation’ Discusses Removal of Malpractice Web Site With Plaintiff Database [free membership] Update: Bard-Parker breaks the news among medbloggers that DoctorsKnow.Us closed shop, turned tail, and ranDoctorsKnow.Us has permane…